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pearly0327
It seems like everyone is buying newer more $$$ models of sergers. Are older serger models not as good in terms of workmanship and longevity? I'm looking at the Babylock EA-605 right now.
Betakin
Arizona USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
Older Babylocks are very well built. I used to sell them and owned one but after the time of the EA-605 model. I think a model even slightly newer will be easier to use and have a few more features that you would enjoy.
I'm not familiar with your model but I do have a book that tells the features of many of the older Babylock models and from what I gather the 605 does not have a light where the 625 model does. Stitches include 4 thread safety, 2 thread over edge, 2 thread double chain, 2 thread flatlock and 2 thread blindhem.
Older Babylocks used different types of needles that are industrial type round shank rather hard to insert properly. My older Babylock took the DCX1F needle and I believe the 605 uses BLx2N needles and does not have a stitch width adjustment and the stitch length adjustment is done by push button. The tension type is 'multiple' revolution and does not have a numbered dial.
I feel when using a serger that importance in ease of use comes into play and a Babylock just a few years newer would be a lot easier to use and have differential feed and some models would give the capability of more stitches.
My older Babylock was a 4 thread model with differential feed, 4 thread overlock, 2 thread stitches and chain stitch and did a straight seam beside the serged seam but it did not have the type of stitch capability of other model Babylock sergers made at the same time. It was more difficult to adjust than newer models but did have easy lower looper threading and it was built like a tank.stitches were terrific too.
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I'm not familiar with your model but I do have a book that tells the features of many of the older Babylock models and from what I gather the 605 does not have a light where the 625 model does. Stitches include 4 thread safety, 2 thread over edge, 2 thread double chain, 2 thread flatlock and 2 thread blindhem.
Older Babylocks used different types of needles that are industrial type round shank rather hard to insert properly. My older Babylock took the DCX1F needle and I believe the 605 uses BLx2N needles and does not have a stitch width adjustment and the stitch length adjustment is done by push button. The tension type is 'multiple' revolution and does not have a numbered dial.
I feel when using a serger that importance in ease of use comes into play and a Babylock just a few years newer would be a lot easier to use and have differential feed and some models would give the capability of more stitches.
My older Babylock was a 4 thread model with differential feed, 4 thread overlock, 2 thread stitches and chain stitch and did a straight seam beside the serged seam but it did not have the type of stitch capability of other model Babylock sergers made at the same time. It was more difficult to adjust than newer models but did have easy lower looper threading and it was built like a tank.stitches were terrific too.
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pearly0327
Thank you! I'll keep looking then.. I definitely want something reliable, but it needs to be easy to use and hopefully less expensive then the new models coming out.
nancy2001
Skill: Advanced
I have a Babylock Imagine Wave. I understand that some of the earliest versions of the Imagine had problems with the jet air tubes, but that later versions do not have these problems.------
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Sewing Diva Susan
USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
Posted on: 4/16/08 12:15 PM
I had that machine, heavy and green! I believe they did make it in a blue color later on. Here is the only problem with it, there is no markings on the tensions, and so if they are off it can be just pure guess work getting them back. Also the tensions will un-screw right off into your hand! Like I said I had that machine about 33 years ago, and someone stole it! I still have the owners manual to it. I paid only 125.00 for it new, those were the days! ------
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Betakin
Arizona USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
Years ago when I purchased my Babylock I only paid $399 for it with an employees discount. When I traded it in recently the dealer sold it for more than what I had paid for it.
sewdays
New York USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
I own the Bablylock BL4-838D also called the pro line which I purchased in the early 90's. Last year I decided it was time to upgrade and brought this machine in to a babylock dealer to be repaired. I really thought that I had killed it finally, but they fixed it and I swear that it is running like it did when I first got it! I had even bought a new evolve that same day because that's how certain I was that it was done and I needed a coverstitch machine as well. It was well worth the $75 I paid to have it fixed and I haven't needed to touch the tension dial at all. I don't know about the model that you are looking at but I know that the old babylocks are good.
Betakin
Arizona USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
I agree old Babylocks are good. My old Babylock was also a made in Japan ProLine model and my dealer told me 'They just don't make sergers like this anymore' but the model that Pearly has been interested in had none of the improved features of the ProLine models and might be difficult to use. I think sometimes when something is difficult to use, we just don't use it and serging is too much fun to miss out on by having a serger that sits in the closet.
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girlgirraffe
I just purchased used one and would like to know what feet are available . It has an elastic foot and another i'm not sure what it is. If you can help id appreciate it
thank you
sandy
thank you
sandy
Judy Kski
Florida USA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
I purchased my Baby Lock serger (Model #BL3-418) in 1987 when they first came out. I welcomed the introduction of this machine into the home sewing market with open arms. Even though I upgraded to a 4-thread Baby Lock with differential feed (Model #BL4-28K) in 1996, I kept my first serger. I still use that first one on a regular basis because I like the small foot it has. The only complaint I have about either one of my first two sergers is having to adjust the tension. I felt like I waisted more of my sewing time doing that every time I changed sewing projects. In 2008, my husband bought a Viking Huskylock 936 for my birthday. I finally have a machine that takes care of the tension adjustment for me and also has coverstitch capability, just to name a couple of its' great features. However, it has a huge foot that makes me feel like I'm blind when I use it. Needless to say, I go back to my first serger whenever I can get away with it because I love how nicely it stitches (even with the tension adj) and you can't beat the size of the foot. I still have all three of my sergers because each one serves its' special purpose in my sewing room.
This is another subject but still relevent since we're talking about sergers; can someone please explain to me why some folks refuse to buy a serger to aid them in their sewing? I'm not talking about those who just can't afford one, but those who consciously chose not to buy one and make it their destiny to never own one. I really believe in them because I use to zig-zag all my seam edges in the garments I made and then trim them with a scissors. Buying a serger saved me so much time that when they hit the home sewing market in the '80's, I couldn't wait to buy one. My sergers are an integral part of my sewing room and just as necessary as my SM. I hope I don't upset anyone with my question; I'm just curious.
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This is another subject but still relevent since we're talking about sergers; can someone please explain to me why some folks refuse to buy a serger to aid them in their sewing? I'm not talking about those who just can't afford one, but those who consciously chose not to buy one and make it their destiny to never own one. I really believe in them because I use to zig-zag all my seam edges in the garments I made and then trim them with a scissors. Buying a serger saved me so much time that when they hit the home sewing market in the '80's, I couldn't wait to buy one. My sergers are an integral part of my sewing room and just as necessary as my SM. I hope I don't upset anyone with my question; I'm just curious.
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